Well, that didn’t go so well

April 27th, 2008 Posted in Avery Johnson, Game Recap

I don’t even feel like writing anything here tonight. I’m just very disappointed right now. I guess I just need to accept that this team just isn’t very good anymore. Josh Howard has become a ghost of his former self. Jerry Stackhouse shouldn’t even be playing right now if he’s hurt. I guess he deserves some credit for wanting to gut it out, but when you’re already declining as a player an injury is not something to fight through. Jason Kidd just can’t handle Paul or any young point guard. It’s becoming quickly apparent that the trade is going to end up being a huge failure and affect this team for years to come.

At least Dirk, JET, Bass and Damp are out there at least showing a little effort. Unfortunately effort alone doesn’t get you wins in this league. And right now this team needs a lot of work.

Of course having your head coach roll out freaking J.J. Barea in the second quarter while you’re holding on to a 9 point doesn’t help matters any. Seriously, what the hell was Avery thinking there? There is absolutely no reason for Barea to see the floor in this series. The kid may have potential, but that’s what summer leagues, the pre-season and early season games are for. Not pivotal game fours in an important playoff series.

To go along with that Stack played for 15:10 and provided absolutely nothing. He shouldn’t be on the floor at all right and Avery should be able to recognize that. I know he probably wouldn’t help, but would at least trying Antoine Wright for a few minutes hurt? I know I just got done saying young guys don’t need to be playing, but at least Wright is healthy. Or if not him put Eddie Jones out there to see if he can give you something besides a combined 4-21 from Stack and Howard.

There’s more to be said about lineups and coaching decisions tonight, but I’ll let you guys handle that.

Just a disappointing game and Tuesday will most likely be the final game for this group of guys. More tomorrow.


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  1. 48 Responses to “Well, that didn’t go so well”

  2. By gi on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:43:51 pm

    just damn sad to see. that’s all. we all know what’s coming…i wish this team could’ve brought bid D a ring, will have to keep waiting. i wish Dirk the best, he deserves a ring, and so does Terry.

  3. By Spurred1 on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:45:34 pm

    Sickening and sad. This team has some major issues to address. Should they trade Dirk, Howard, and Dampier? Does Avery get canned? Could Larry Brown help this team? I don’t want to see Dirk leave the Mavs, but trading him may be better than having him waste more time with the Mavs. Especially if Avery stays.

  4. By vic wightman on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:45:38 pm

    Avery sucks balls,he has lost this team after he finished ruining it. Maybe we can win a championship in the social security league…if we get another coach and the opponents don’t oil their wheelchairs!!!!

  5. By JM23 on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:53:11 pm

    Josh Howard is done!! what happened to him?

  6. By confused mavs fan on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:55:58 pm

    so terry guards cp and does a GREAT job on him in game 3, which affected the hornets whole offense. why was kidd back on cp tonight??? and what does avery say to howard during timeouts? KEEP SHOOTING ???? i blame this loss solely on howard, not getting anyone involved … i just dont know anymore. depressing loss

  7. By JESse on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:58:18 pm

    Fire it up JOSH! Please Mark FIRE AVERY

  8. By Jessica galleshaw on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:02:49 am

    I think Dirk and Kidd has some good chemistry together, but if this team is to include the two of them, they need a training camp, with a new coach, to give this supposedly “new and improved” lineup any sort of a chance of coming together.

    Obviously our hopes will have to lie in next season, but there’s no need to think this team is doomed. We need a rebuilding, but we’ve got some pieces to build around. There are going to be alot of good coaching options available this summer, and of course a good coach would want to come to the Mavs to face the ultimate challenge, getting this team to live up to potential.

  9. By David on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:36:31 am

    It was nice to see Avery leave in our 2nd unit in the 2nd quarter while the Mavs quickly gave up our 10 point lead. Love that we called no timeouts and made no adjustments. Love that Kidd and Dirk were left on the bench. Great coaching.

  10. By jp on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:38:30 am

    This team has seven players who can help win games and, unfortunately, Josh Howard has his head up his @$$. I wonder if it would be possible to trade him for Sean Marion in the offseason.

  11. By Michael on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:40:33 am

    Stack & Barea should not have been in at all. Howard looked bad. Avery and Westphal need to be FIRED and Josh Howard needs to be TRADED! Howard’s value may be pretty low right now though. Avery has destroyed this team, now Cuban has to rebuild it after this mess of a trade that has occured. I’m brainstorming for a true coach…Rudy T…atleast he can get a true center. Larry Brown?

  12. By mrtwister on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:01:59 am

    Bring in Doug Moe and run the shizza out of everyone.

  13. By FreeDirk on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:07:37 am

    Michael,

    Cuban built the team you see before you. What makes you think he can rebuild it any better? I amazed at how easily people have forgotten that Mark Cuban is the guy who refused to sign a point guard that proceeded to win back-to-back MVPs.

    The simple fact is that we needed Stack’s production in this series. There’s no way we could win the series without him, which is why he was in the lineup, when he should’ve been on the injured list.

    With Howard being a complete no-show, we needed SOMEONE to fill that void. Unfortunately for Avery Johnson, the Mavs, and all their fans, Stack was our best option.

    And as for Barea: I thought he should’ve seen floor time in Game 1. With Lue in street clothes, Barea was our best option at the PG position, defensively. I see why Johnson played him, but I think that shoving him out there for the first time in Game 4 was a questionable decision.

    The Kidd trade was Cuban’s deal. It was his last desperate attempt at making up for the Nash Disaster.

  14. By Richie Rich on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:09:03 am

    Once again Avery is getting outcoached. Can anyone see the inconsistentcy with his coaching? He made the necessary adjustments in game 3, which worked, yet he changes everything up for game 4?!

    Brandon Bass need to be locked up for a few more years, this guy is going to be a pretty decent player for the years to come.

    The sad thing is after next year, what do we have?? We gave away our future with Harris and Diop. Stackhouse is done, Howard is Michael Finley without a jumpshot. I can’t blame Jason Kidd that much because Avery doesn’t let him run the floor, just like he didn’t let Harris run the floor.

    Avery’s record does not speak for itself because he took over a great team and has nothing to show for it except. Unfortunately he might survive another year because of this debacle of a trade. I can hear the “We didn’t have enough time to mesh” excuse being used for the reason this team isn’t winning.

    I’m a true die hard fan and can’t say ‘quit’ or ‘done’ until it is in fact truly just that. 3 in a row isn’t going to be the easiest thing but I’ve got my rally cap, shirt, jersey, and underwear on all the way. Rowdy, Proud, and Loud..MFFL. Fire Avery, Go Mavs!!

  15. By Sam on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:16:37 am

    i love how the mavs took commanding leads in games 1 and 4 and avery always finds a way to mess it up! i seriously think he is the worst X and O’s / knowing rotations coach in the NBA right now. i am praying to the basketball Gods that mr. cuban realizes this now as well

  16. By mike on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:17:59 am

    Screw Larry Brown, we need a younger head coach with a real defensive mindset(not that crap that Avery calls defense); Rick Carlisle. I’m probably the only one that’s been campaigning for him, but he IS a good fit for this Mavericks team. It looks like Chicago is the only team we’d be competing with for him(is there really a decision to be made between the two teams?).

    JJ Barea is a good kid, but he needs to be somewhere where he can develop and get the playing time he needs(there’s nothing wrong with the D-League). We also need another scorer in the starting lineup; Terry needs to be our sixth man. I’m not sure who’s available this summer, but we need a 2.

  17. By FreeDirk on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:35:14 am

    There is simply no evidence that points to Avery’s decisions “messing up” our offensive approach. We all saw the halftime locker room clip in Game 2, when he called for 10 pts in the paint to start the half.

    The players proceeded to jack up jumper, after jumper, after jumper, after jumper…

    That’s what happened tonight. Avery (or anyone else) can implore those guys to attack the rim until he’s blue in the face, but it’s the players who have to make up their minds to actually do it. Even in Game 3, we saw them getting lazy and settling for jumpers during a stretch of the 2nd quarter.

    Simple fact is that without Howard’s and Stack’s offensive production, we’re just too easy to guard. Even in the Game 3 win, we only scored 97 points. I was amazed that we were able to win with Howard and Stack still doing so poorly on offense.

    The other simple fact is that we have no reliable center.

  18. By FreeDirk on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:40:12 am

    I’ve been a huge fan of Josh Howard’s, but the way he’s playing right now, it’s hard to not suspect that he’s tanking games.

  19. By Brad Robertson on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:48:27 am

    When Mike D’antoni gets the boot in Phoenix, Cuban should grab him.

  20. By Mav in Cali on Apr 28, 2008 at 2:02:48 am

    Pathetic. Now at least we know that change is coming, so that’s a positive. Avery better be the one to go, as well as the other spare parts on this team who don’t contribute anything on a regular basis (which is the majority of the team). Josh Howard was horrific, he needs to go along with Avery. He’s gonna be the poster boy of “this is your game… this is your game on drugs”.

    Dirk, Bass, Kidd (as long as Avery is gone) and Terry are the only ones I would want to keep at all.

    Now let’s all say it in unison once and for all.. FIRE AVERY!

  21. By Will on Apr 28, 2008 at 2:12:04 am

    Looking at our salaries, the following players ARE coming back:

    Dirk
    Kidd
    Bass
    Damps
    Terry
    Eddie Jones

    -Dirk is a no-brainer.

    -Kidd has 1 year left on a $21 million contract. He will be attractive trade bait, but I don’t know where we could trade him too. Someone looking for cap space and to dump a bunch of players to equal the salaries…maybe Chicago. I doubt we do it though.

    -Bass is here on the cheap, so that is a no brainer.

    -Damps has an awful contract for 3 more years. No way to move him.

    -Terry has an awful contract for 4 more years. Again, no way to move him.

    -Unfortunately, Eddie Jones has a player option for next year for $2 mil. Unless he is an idiot, he will exercise it and be back.

    -Howard is the only other player under contract, but he will definitely be shopped and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on another team for sure.

    Everyone else is a free agent that we can let walk. My guess is we see Stack come back at a discount. I also wouldn’t mind seeing Antoine Wright back. Everyone else can walk.

  22. By Titanic on Apr 28, 2008 at 5:23:57 am

    We are sinking fast! Mayday! Mayday! SOS! An iceberg named Avery has struck our ship!

  23. By Zd on Apr 28, 2008 at 6:01:09 am

    I’m sad,
    and angry.

  24. By georgia on Apr 28, 2008 at 7:52:52 am

    ditto to most of the above……

    it’s unbelievable that this has become our MAVS

    Avery came in and took a great team, coached by someone else to make them that….and has managed to bring them down to something unrecognizable as the Mavs I’ve had hopes in.
    Why didn’t he use the same combination that won us game 3 ?? oh, they might be planning on that??? Well, Avery, it doesnt’ take a rocket scientist to outcoach you. My 11 yr old grandson is smarter than you….he asked me questions about why you weren’t using Jet on cp3, etc…….unfortunately you just don’t cut the mustard anymore in the coaching business…..I HOPE YOU GET YOUR BUTT FIRED….you deserve it !!! and maybe you can take all these scrubs that you love to play so much, with you!

    this whole thing makes me want to throw up,

    Thanks Avery for NOTHING

  25. By CI on Apr 28, 2008 at 8:22:40 am

    Will and Mav fan in Cali- you guys are both exactly right! This team is not a lost cause. This season obviously is, but the Mavs do have some nice pieces moving forward. Getting rid of Avery will be a HUGE step in the right direction. I think you will see improved play out of several of the guys once the Little Tyrant is gone. Dirk is still a stud and Jet is still a very valuable player on most nights. Give Kidd the reigns under a new head coach and the trade will look alright. He’s obviously lost a step on defense, but he’s still a great creator and rebounder. He makes Dirk better than Harris did. Bass is obviously a keeper too. He provides very quality minutes off the bench and can play the 4 or 5. I say bring back Stack too, at a reduced price. He’s obviously injured right now and not playing well, but he could serve the Mavs well as an option off the bench. Damp is Damp. He’s overpaid and has probably the worst hands in the league, but he has also benefitted from Kidd’s arrival. He is at least decent on most nights. Josh Howard needs to go. I don’t want the Mavs to just dump him because he does have talent/value. But if the can get one or two guys of equal value, I say pull the trigger. Let’s face it- the guy’s an idiot. The comments he made to the media about his drug use might have been honest, but they were incredibly stupid and distracting. I bet Cuban was beside himself after reading that stuff. I was already tired of Josh frequently checking out of games in the second half, both mentally and physically. This latest marijuana nonsense just seals his fate in my opinion.

  26. By Jessica on Apr 28, 2008 at 9:21:54 am

    I totally agree with CI, and Dirk has been nothing short of amazing, especially considering he’s getting very little help.

    Honestly, I think Avery’s tyrant-esque style most negatively affects J-Ho. The way he’s played, he deserves to go, but maybe he could really come alive under a different coaching system, so keeping him could turn out to be ok, and he could be a real thorn in our side if we let him go and he ends up under a coach who knows how to deal with him.

  27. By JM23 on Apr 28, 2008 at 9:22:57 am

    It’s going to be hard to get anything for J. Howard right now…you think a team is going to trade a couple players for someone who admitted to smoking weed (and is playing HORRIBLE)? Well maybe if it was Kobe or LeBron but Josh Howard? he can’t even hit the side of a barn right now with his shot, it’s rediculous, any team who trades for him would get ragged on by the media and fans for trading for howard, it’s just bad publicity for your team and organization. I mean J. Howard has basically commited career suicide, now I’m not saying he will never play again but any endorsements, commercials, etc. are gone, nobody want’s their product to be promoted by someone who admits to smoking weed, which by the way is against the law (idiot)…

  28. By Elraptor on Apr 28, 2008 at 9:31:11 am

    So sick of this stuff.

  29. By PISTmavsFAN on Apr 28, 2008 at 9:54:11 am

    I couldn’t be more pist at JHO, he is a complete joke know, especially with his recent drug admissions. If I could see him right now, I’d tell him, looks like the off season is coming quick and you can go back to doing your THING.

    Avery has to be the dumbest coach ever! Tonights games looked very different from Game 3, why did he feel the need to change things up that much?

    WTF was JJ Barea doing in this game, amazing how the lead was lost right around that time.

  30. By Aubrey on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:31:28 am

    I am just glad someone finally said the trade is a failure….i thought it was a failure the day we made it. We got old, slow, declining players for our young and upcoming ones. Not only that we took a financial blow and ruined our future. The play last night was awful to watch…Howard plays with no heart, Kidd is burned by Paul over and over, and didn’t help the team at all. Poor Dirk is expected to pretty much score the points which he just can’t do. And i do not blame Avery for putting in JJ considering how bad Kidd was playing and then when he made the dumbest flagrant 2 i have ever seen!!!! I love the Mavs but they just arent that good….I do not like Avery as a coach, but i also want to put some of the blame on Mark Cuban. I hope he either sells the team or goes and sits up in his owners box and lets people who actually know basketball run the team…so we dont end up with another Jason Kidd incident!!!

  31. By FreeDirk on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:49:02 am

    It was NOT the insertion of JJ Barea and Stackhouse that lost this game for us, y’all. Correlation does not equal causation. What lost us this game was the fact that we didn’t have anyone but Dirk, JET, and (to a lesser degree) Bass who could provide any scoring for us. Period. The greatest coach in the NBA couldn’t have done anything with that roster last night. You guys expect nothing short of magic, and it just ain’t gonna happen.

    It looks to me like Josh Howard wants the hell out of Dallas.

  32. By Pru on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:32:00 am

    I knew the Kidd trade would be a bust. Fire Avery! We need to start all over and just keep Terry, Dirk and Bass. Get rid of everyone else.

    Hopefully Dirk will demand a trade and get to go somewhere he can actually win a ring.

    This is a dying team. They suck!

  33. By drew on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:54:19 am

    Pru,

    It’s not necessarily a bust. Try changing the point guard on any team past the half way point and you can’t expect a championship from that. Especially when the point guard in question plays a totally different style than the team he just joined.

    The trade can work, they just needed an offseason with Kidd before he can be truly effective for this team.

  34. By Jessica on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:52:08 pm

    Maybe Mark shouldn’t have traded for Kidd, given up so much, whatever, but he DID, which means Avery should have figured out a way to deal with it. Avery works for Mark. That’s his job. He wanted Devin to take the reigns early this season, and that didn’t work out so well, so know he is calling every play. He gets a guy who can call plays, and he won’t let him.

    What is wrong with this guy? If you were future Hall-of-Famer, former Rookie of the Year, former almost MVP, and all-in-all one of the greatest point guards in NBA history, would you wanna listen to, Avery “I once hit a big shot as a bench player for your rival team” Johnson?

    If Avery does not want to work with Kidd, he should leave.

  35. By MFFL on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:52:33 pm

    I say try this team with a new Coach before you tinker with the lineup and players.
    And that means firing Avery now and not mid season and all the gibberish about giving him time with the players.
    At least something good came out of this season..we got a good player in Bass. Next, I say they need to work on Wright and see how much better he can get. If that works, it means we will have 2 solid, young players. I doubt Wright is worse than J-Ho, and he’ll probably work harder than him.
    Anyhow, it is sad to watch these Mavs! I mean, you could see no one besides Dirk, Terry, and Bass were trying to really do much out there - it was like they gave up.
    I hear it is J-Ho’s birthday today - I hope Avery, for once do something right, works him out so much he won’t even have time to cut a cake!

  36. By Jessica on Apr 28, 2008 at 12:56:37 pm

    Also, I don’t think this trade was a failure. It’s a little early to say that.

    And in Cuban’s defense, maybe he let the future slip away (Diop will be free from his contract this summer btw), but one thing he has shown is that he is willing to spend to get us good players. In a few years, we will just have to trust that he will be willing to spend, spend, spend if he has to to bring us whatever PG might be on the market then. Every summer, many great players become free agents.

  37. By selke99 on Apr 28, 2008 at 1:37:04 pm

    Did anyone notice at the end of the 3rd qtr with 21 seconds left, down by 9 with Dirk just making a FT, Avery subs Kidd in for JET, who has been the best defender so far on Paul. So what does Paul do? Attack the basket and get a foul on Kidd with 4 seconds left. Paul sinks 2 FTs. Then Avery subs JET back in!!! What??!! Why not just leave JET in for defense on Paul to end the qtr with hopefully some momentum? Idiotic.

  38. By Rishabh on Apr 28, 2008 at 3:14:09 pm

    the mavs have no heart. JET and DIRK are the only players that play with any emotion. Get rid of J-HO and juwan,devean george, malik, and edde jones. we need to get shawn marion, or corey maggette, or elton brand. we could really use monta ellis and get larry brown or mike d’antoni so kidd can run the floor on his own. just get rid of those uselss playes

  39. By Yash on Apr 28, 2008 at 3:27:48 pm

    It aint over, till its over.
    But, the way the Mavs are playing… 1 more game before the Avery era ends! Woohoo!

    How hard is it to take it to the rim, if your shots aren’t falling??? Thats basketball 101.
    I didnt see anybody doing that expect JET last night.

  40. By mike on Apr 28, 2008 at 4:05:50 pm

    The Kidd trade was not a bust. If you have a personal issue with Jason, that’s your problem. It’s not his fault that the idiot coach won’t let him control the offense. A future Hall of Fame PG that isn’t allowed to run the offense… absolutely ridiculous!!

  41. By drew on Apr 28, 2008 at 4:16:46 pm

    mike,

    Like I said before, we got Kidd midway through the season. I’m sure the Mavs would have been totally lost and not in the playoffs if we let the PG come in and change their whole style of play. It’s easier to allow one guy to adjust to a team than the whole team adjust to him. Who knows, next season might be a turnaround when Kidd has more practice time with his new teammates and coach.

    And to think, Kidd adjusted to his new team and some of the players couldn’t even adjust to him, *cough* Josh *cough*. Hasn’t been the same since the trade and it was Kidd who re-adjusted and quite frankly hasn’t done a bad job in my opinion, of what he’s been thrown into.

  42. By DB on Apr 28, 2008 at 4:27:00 pm

    I can’t believe that someone called for Mike D’Antoni to replace Avery. If you are going to implement that offense you have to have more than one player who can make a freaking jump shot. A coach can diagram all he/she wants but you have to have players make shots.

    I have located the player formerly known as Josh Howard. His name is Julian Wright.

  43. By Hody on Apr 28, 2008 at 5:29:16 pm

    they should just say dirk is done for the season and stop the bleeding..
    this hurts to watch

  44. By ihatekidd on Apr 28, 2008 at 5:37:08 pm

    yea i hate watching Dirk not get a championship year after year he def deserves it….im not giving up on Josh though, yea he’s playing bad but obviously that trade hurt him a lot, Kidd just doesn’t compliment him that well

  45. By Dick Chambers on Apr 28, 2008 at 6:09:48 pm

    You Mavs fans have problems…..I have solutions!
    1)Fire Avery…..nba finals meltdown, dubious first round exit last year, and quick first round exit this year……players (not just josh) have tuned him out….Did you know that Avery didn’t let his players talk to the media today & canceled the mavericks practice today while yelling to them about not listening to him and tuning him out?-not only does this prove he has lost the team, but speaks volumes about his upcoming axing……mavs will improve as soon as he leaves the room.
    2)The kidd trade was a monumental mistake that set the franchise back 2-3 years, but that just make it easier to get rid of these ancient players…..
    3)Damp, Jet, J-splif, kidd & their contracts hurt really bad, but c’mon-it’s not like the NY Knicks situation. You could probably trade J-splif in the offseason, but considering his trade value is at an all-time low, let’s see if the next coach can turn him around. Jet plays with tremendous heart and I’m curious to see how the next coach will utilize him better, We know Damp is very inconsistent, and not having diop really hurts him. Mavs should seriously think about bringing diop back in the offseason.If not, maybe damp can be traded in 2 years for a good backup or role player…..kidd-will play here next year, with a slight chance he may be traded next year if things bottom out….might fetch a tie 2 player or draft pick….Sadly, we will be known as a team like the sacramento kings, very good, but not great,but much worse…..as chokers (or like my buddy said from philly- man, you guys “AVERY’ED out again?!!)

  46. By Richie Rich on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:01:30 pm

    Anyone that has played, coached, or watched basketball knows its about momentum, therefore Avery, or Mr. Inconsistent, changing up the lineups, putting in a back up point guard that hasn’t played in weeks every since Tyrone Lue came to town, wasn’t the best idea.

    I have always been the biggest Avery supporter but enough is enough. The future of this time is on red alert. Most of the basketball ‘people’ are saying we won’t even make the playoffs next year, yet I disagree with that. Devin Harris may not have been a hall of fame point guard but he is/was a productive, starting point guard that is explosive and can play defense.

    Now let’s forget about the past. Devin and Diop are gone. Kidd is here for at least another year and if given the reigns to run the floor (no offense to Avery but Kidd is a HOF point guard…something Avery never was) this team could go to a whole other level.

    I disagree with the comment that Kidd doesn’t compliment Josh…Josh used to be a slasher which is the kind of player Kidd loves!! You need players to run and slash and trailers to hit for the spot up 3. Yet Josh somehow got the idea he is the best jump shooter on the team and forgot what the paint looks like. Is there any way we can get Marion or Deng?

    Mavs Fans, it looks like the glory days are slowly fading and with the age of this team a ‘rebuilding phase’ seems inevitable. Thank you Avery for getting us excited enough to be disappointed. Thank you to Dirk for everything you have ever done. You have been everything everyone expected and much, much more. MFFL…it’s not over. I predict a game 7, Josh, Bass, and Kidd will have big games in Game 5. Oh yeah…go Mavs!!

  47. By mike on Apr 29, 2008 at 12:35:22 am

    ihatekidd,

    Dirk’s shooting percentage went up after Kidd arrived. Do some research before you trash somebody like that.

  48. By John on Apr 29, 2008 at 9:46:00 am

    It’s all about talent, and the Mavs got rid of all their’s except for Dirk. Another player that we let get away that would be a real help is Jamison. The Mavs kept Howard and Stackhouse and let Jamison go to Washington.

    As for the play of the young inexperienced players, it is interesting how well Julian Wright played for New Orleans. It is amazing what true athletes can do. The Mavs wouldn’t know they don’t have any. Personally I would like to see the Mavs go after some young players who want to make a name for themselves. These old guys don’t really care. They have made their Millions. Do you think Kidd is that driven when he is making 17 million. The Dirk’s of the world who don’t play for the money are few and far between.

  49. By Mav Believer on Apr 29, 2008 at 5:00:23 pm

    Mav Nation Chill for a sec and sit back and breathe. This thing is not over. Right now Mavs are missing open shots N.O. is not defending Dirk worth a crap, and when we decided to go to the hole we get there everytime with good things happening.

    DO NOT FIRE AVERY..He is a young coach that will grow and become a great one. Dont let roster errors (i.e. The Need for second All Star to be added next to dirk. No Josh was a one timer I mean a perennial type dude) determine his future w/ the Mavs…

    KEEP AVERY
    FIRE DONNIE and MARK

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